Command and Conquer Arena Speculation is possible EA MMORTS
Posted By: Ranga14 | 11 Comment(s)
Posted On: Apr 14, 2009
Command and Conquer Arena Speculation, MMORTS?
There's a lot of buzz going on about what EA seems to be hiding in this new mystery title they're working on in Command and Conquer Arena. At first, my assumption was that it's either a new game or an expansion to Command & Conquer 3. Then I started to recall this interview I watched on the RA3 bonus disk (Bonus Battlecast prime time episode) and also remember reading an interview awhile back with him discussing his thoughts on Massively Multiplayer gaming and how it could be applied toward an RTS, hence MMORTS.
If you want further evidence, just do a little research and you'll find that Westwood (Before EA fully took them over) was developing an MMORTS called Command & Conquer Continuum which is described below...
Now let's also think about the name of this game, Command & Conquer Arena. What does Arena mean?
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a're'na (-rn)
n.
1.
a. An enclosed area for the presentation of sports events and spectacles.
b. A building housing such an area
2. A place or scene where forces contend or events unfold: withdrew from the political arena; the world as an arena of moral conflict.
3. The area in the center of an ancient Roman amphitheater where contests and other spectacles were held.
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Furthermore, there's a picture of a globe so it obviously has to be a Command & Conquer Online type variant, right?
As you can see, it would make perfect sense. Why would EA make an expansion with a title such as "Arena" which defines more in the direction of head to head play rather than a campaign type setting. Granted, there could be a campaign feel but more as you vs another real person on the opposing team. The other question is, which universe will it be set in? Most likely either Tiberium or Generals. My bet is Generals since it's the most realistic universe EA has done plus it's the one that hasn't had any attention paid to it in quite some time.
So there you have it, the next CNC is an MMORTS! At least that's our opinion!
Sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CABAL_(C&C)
http://www.cncden.com/index.php?subaction=...amp;ucat=8&
There's a lot of buzz going on about what EA seems to be hiding in this new mystery title they're working on in Command and Conquer Arena. At first, my assumption was that it's either a new game or an expansion to Command & Conquer 3. Then I started to recall this interview I watched on the RA3 bonus disk (Bonus Battlecast prime time episode) and also remember reading an interview awhile back with him discussing his thoughts on Massively Multiplayer gaming and how it could be applied toward an RTS, hence MMORTS.
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David Silverman: So I'm obligated by the fans here, Command and Conquer 3, Red Alert 3, Generals 2?
Mike Verdu: I'm a big fan of Generals, and I worked on that project, that's where I came in to RTS, when I came into EA, don't be surprised to see another installment of Generals at some point in the future, but it's certainly nothing to talk about just yet.
David Silverman: You know, Red Alert 3, and even since the very first command and conquer game back in 1995, introduced this concept of multiplayer gameplay. That concept of multiplayer gaming has continued on throughout the franchise, Red Alert 3 they're adding the notion of co-operative gameplay, you know, do you see multiplayer taking on new shape and form in the franchise?
Mike Verdu: There's no question that online is transforming, not just real time strategy games, but gaming as a whole, and I'm proud that Command and Conquer pioneered online multiplayer back to the original C&C and the fact that's really what got RTS gaming going, it's a way to get players not just involved with the game, but involved socially... rest of this is irrelevant, skip a couple of seconds to this.
David Silverman: Now people who purchased the premier edition of Red Alert 3, they have this piece of paper that says "beta key to a future command and conquer game," silver bullet question Mike Verdu, what's the game?
Mike Verdu: I am absolutely not gonna say anything about it, other then it's a really cool game, AND ONLINE FIGURES QUITE PROMINENTLY THERE.
Mike Verdu: I'm a big fan of Generals, and I worked on that project, that's where I came in to RTS, when I came into EA, don't be surprised to see another installment of Generals at some point in the future, but it's certainly nothing to talk about just yet.
David Silverman: You know, Red Alert 3, and even since the very first command and conquer game back in 1995, introduced this concept of multiplayer gameplay. That concept of multiplayer gaming has continued on throughout the franchise, Red Alert 3 they're adding the notion of co-operative gameplay, you know, do you see multiplayer taking on new shape and form in the franchise?
Mike Verdu: There's no question that online is transforming, not just real time strategy games, but gaming as a whole, and I'm proud that Command and Conquer pioneered online multiplayer back to the original C&C and the fact that's really what got RTS gaming going, it's a way to get players not just involved with the game, but involved socially... rest of this is irrelevant, skip a couple of seconds to this.
David Silverman: Now people who purchased the premier edition of Red Alert 3, they have this piece of paper that says "beta key to a future command and conquer game," silver bullet question Mike Verdu, what's the game?
Mike Verdu: I am absolutely not gonna say anything about it, other then it's a really cool game, AND ONLINE FIGURES QUITE PROMINENTLY THERE.
If you want further evidence, just do a little research and you'll find that Westwood (Before EA fully took them over) was developing an MMORTS called Command & Conquer Continuum which is described below...
QUOTE
Command & Conquer: Continuum was to be Westwood's second MMORPG, developed on the "Westwood 3D" engine, set in the Tiberian Universe. It was canceled, due to the termination of Westwood Studios in 2003. As said by Adam 'Ishmael' Isgreen and Rade Stojsavljevic, it was supposed to be a non-stand-and-swing MMORPG, featuring:
* Instanced "crisis zones" in it, hubbed flight routes, scripted boss battles, and a lot of other ideas that have shown up in all the MMORPG since.
* GDI, Nod, Mutants and CABAL. Scrin to be added later. Los Angeles half underwater, Area 51, Dino island, Newark airport, a mutant city and lots more.
* Fluid and movement-oriented combat, unlike most MMORPGs. Range was important for weapons use, and there were layers of counters for the weapon types.
* Creatures that had many console-game-boss sensibilities, in that you could expose weaknesses on them and then hit those for extra damage.
* A moving and evolving Tiberian world, where the players could play a great role in the entire story.
* Instanced "crisis zones" in it, hubbed flight routes, scripted boss battles, and a lot of other ideas that have shown up in all the MMORPG since.
* GDI, Nod, Mutants and CABAL. Scrin to be added later. Los Angeles half underwater, Area 51, Dino island, Newark airport, a mutant city and lots more.
* Fluid and movement-oriented combat, unlike most MMORPGs. Range was important for weapons use, and there were layers of counters for the weapon types.
* Creatures that had many console-game-boss sensibilities, in that you could expose weaknesses on them and then hit those for extra damage.
* A moving and evolving Tiberian world, where the players could play a great role in the entire story.
Now let's also think about the name of this game, Command & Conquer Arena. What does Arena mean?
----------------------------------
a're'na (-rn)
n.
1.
a. An enclosed area for the presentation of sports events and spectacles.
b. A building housing such an area
2. A place or scene where forces contend or events unfold: withdrew from the political arena; the world as an arena of moral conflict.
3. The area in the center of an ancient Roman amphitheater where contests and other spectacles were held.
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Furthermore, there's a picture of a globe so it obviously has to be a Command & Conquer Online type variant, right?
As you can see, it would make perfect sense. Why would EA make an expansion with a title such as "Arena" which defines more in the direction of head to head play rather than a campaign type setting. Granted, there could be a campaign feel but more as you vs another real person on the opposing team. The other question is, which universe will it be set in? Most likely either Tiberium or Generals. My bet is Generals since it's the most realistic universe EA has done plus it's the one that hasn't had any attention paid to it in quite some time.
So there you have it, the next CNC is an MMORTS! At least that's our opinion!
Sources
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CABAL_(C&C)
http://www.cncden.com/index.php?subaction=...amp;ucat=8&
| Posted by: Nem | 08:56 PM - Apr 16, 2009 |
QUOTE My bet is Generals since it's the most realistic universe EA has done plus it's the one that hasn't had any attention paid to it in quite some time. Did you not link a screen shot with the words "Gigantic Robot Battle" not a paragraph above? Unless Generals has left the modern warfare era you have no idea what your talking about. |
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| Posted by: Ranga14 | 09:47 PM - Apr 16, 2009 |
QUOTE (Nem @ Apr 16 2009, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Did you not link a screen shot with the words "Gigantic Robot Battle" not a paragraph above? Unless Generals has left the modern warfare era you have no idea what your talking about. My friend, no one knows what they're talking about at this point, that's why the article is titled "speculation" and truthfully, why couldn't Generals have "gigantic robot battle", they have robots and drones and such and "Generals 2" could be set a little further into the further than the first, who knows. It all depends on the context. But I will be the first to admit that it could be in the Tiberium universe. It would also make sense since EA could possibly use the same engine and elements without having to make the graphics better looking for a new Generals which would take more time, money and effort. And we all know EA and "effort" don't go in the same sentence.  jk |
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| Posted by: Nem | 11:24 PM - Apr 16, 2009 |
| A drone is not a robot and that's all Generals had. You admitted you were wrong, I will be leaving now. |
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| Posted by: Ranga14 | 12:26 AM - Apr 17, 2009 |
| One cannot be wrong nor right when it comes to pure speculation. | |
| Posted by: Cliff Edge | 10:32 PM - Apr 18, 2009 |
| Some speculation is better kept to oneself. | |
| Posted by: Cliff Edge | 10:35 PM - Apr 18, 2009 |
| I do not appreciate being called an "Uber N00b". I suggest you fix this. | |
| Posted by: Ranga14 | 04:13 AM - Apr 19, 2009 |
QUOTE Some speculation is better kept to oneself. Well, I've always liked the idea of a cnc MMORTS, if you don't, that's fine, whatever floats your boat. QUOTE (Cliff Edge @ Apr 18 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do not appreciate being called an "Uber N00b". I suggest you fix this. lol, it's just apart of the forum ranking system, everyone has it that's "new" to the site. |
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| Posted by: rewted | 09:16 PM - Apr 19, 2009 |
| Are you that upset about it? Seriously? Seems like something pretty trivial to get upset over. We could give you the rank of "speshul" because you think the rules for everyone don't apply to you.  |
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| Posted by: Cliff Edge | 02:21 AM - Apr 21, 2009 |
| We can give you the rank of 'speshul' instead. | |
| Posted by: Vimes | 09:57 AM - Jul 27, 2009 |
QUOTE * A moving and evolving Tiberian world, where the players could play a great role in the entire story. This is the only bit possibly hinting at MMORTS rather than, what I predict, Online RTS with impact measured in titles/ranks or some 'side' terriority gain as a group. Many developers have misused the acronym MMORTS in the recent past. Strictly speaking Mankind and Beyond Protocol are both fully fledged MMORTS's whereas Battleforge, for example, is a MMO RTS or Online RTS/TCG. I severely doubt if EA will let go of the story control to allow true persistence and player created narrative like the previous two I mentioned. More like a competitor to Starcraft 2 than a serious contender for MMORTS genre listing. |
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| Posted by: Ranga14 | 11:21 AM - Jul 27, 2009 |
QUOTE (Vimes @ Jul 27 2009, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This is the only bit possibly hinting at MMORTS rather than, what I predict, Online RTS with impact measured in titles/ranks or some 'side' terriority gain as a group. Many developers have misused the acronym MMORTS in the recent past. Strictly speaking Mankind and Beyond Protocol are both fully fledged MMORTS's whereas Battleforge, for example, is a MMO RTS or Online RTS/TCG. I severely doubt if EA will let go of the story control to allow true persistence and player created narrative like the previous two I mentioned. More like a competitor to Starcraft 2 than a serious contender for MMORTS genre listing. True, although it seems as if they've taken some ideas and are now running with them in the development of Command and Conquer 4. That is with the persistent player progression, ranking, etc. Is it a true MMORTS? No, not even close but they're sprinkling in things here and there to make it feel more grand. |
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